Comments on: Are Russian medical graduates so incompetent?

By: zara

zara — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:23:29 +0000

Basically, it is not happen only for russian medical graduates. Overseas medical graduates always being labelled as incompetent in clinical skills once we practice in Malaysia. So, don’t get too sensitive about Russian medical graduates or any other places.

By: Nasarudin

Nasarudin — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:49:35 +0000

Emm interesting points, especially for someone like me, making every effort promoting Russian Medical education….well..the good the bad and the ugly are every where not limited Russia. We have many home grown as well as western produced who fit the label. pls..for those who think that they never err ..check the fact before passing any negative comments!

Now, another Russian university opens its door ASEAN students …Kazan State Medical University, Kazan, Tatarstan, Russia.

By: Blog Resipi

Blog Resipi — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:07:27 +0000

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By: Ed Hirschprung

Ed Hirschprung — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:36:35 +0000

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By: Ed Hirschprung

Ed Hirschprung — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:35:02 +0000

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By: dina alia

dina alia — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:36:35 +0000

A ‘good’ doctor is very subjective. It’s all depends on the individual, not from the university you graduated. Differences in the healthcare system will always be one of the major problems for overseas students. It happens to everyone, I think;) not only for Russian med students. So, don’t worry, you’ll be a good doctor if you have a ‘right intention’. Even if u need to face with lots of difficulties, it will never be a big problem for you if you have a clear vision on why u want to be a doctor in the first place. Just face the music because after all, everything must be back to our niat… innamal a’malu binniyah (hadith 1).

So, I just want to wish u luck in your studies. Moga Allah bukakan jalan-Nya untuk kita dan moga kita semua mendapat keberkatan dalam pelajaran, insyaAllah;)

By: aywc

aywc — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:18:10 +0000

Thank you for bringing this into light.We Russian students do know how to take history, it’s just that it’s very different from the Malaysian way.They don’t know any anamnesis morbi or vitae, and we don’t understand all their shortforms…can we call this a cultural difference?and a lot of our classifications are different from what they are used to, so when they ask us theirs, it’s natural that we do not know.And vice versa.

But, from my experience of doing attachments in Malaysian hospitals, it’s the specialist whom we followed around that seemed very impressed with what we learnt(we were only in 3rd year then), we can diagnose a simple disease by auscultation, palpation and percussion, without the help of those sophisticated technologies. He was very fascinated with our way of deep palpation too, by which we can feel all the individual organs of the abdominal cavity.(But he told us, it’s very useful for specialists, but it’ll be hard for us when we start working, as we’ll have to relearn the easier and more basic Malaysian way, ours is too advance, it’s a pity).

And also we know ECG more than the local HOs and even some MOs.The hospital was having a post-grad course of ECG, and some MOs looked down on us as they thought we don’t understand anything, and tried to force us to join another seminar for hosp attendants(HAs). Can’t imagine how smug we felt when we saw the looks on their faces when we proved to them we already know that stuff that they’re gonna teach to the MOs and HOs, and told them we already learnt them in our 3rd year internal diseases class(equivalent to local Uni 2nd year).

Please do give us some time to get use to the system, we’d very much appreciate if local doctors who are familiar with the system would help us to adapt faster, instead of criticizing and looking down on us.Put yourself in our shoes, if you’re sent to work in Ukraine or Russia, I’ll bet that you would be ‘not knowing anything’ too….BUT, you’ll be treated much better, than we’ll be when we go back to Malaysia..

By: kamilsifu

kamilsifu — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:04:15 +0000

em….nice explaination from me…=)

By: kevosm

kevosm — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:42:23 +0000

i think its totally bullshit to criticize any ho. With the bad reputation attributed to ukraine and russian medical graduates, they will be under rigorous scrutiny. And let me tell you this. ANY FRESH GRADUATE will definitely fail if placed under such scrutiny. The real problem lies in the senior doctors forgetting the many variables of human character as well as their own experiences as a junior HO. How nervous they felt, afraid of doing procedures, inadequate knowledge. Treat all HO with a view to guide them, not to criticize. It when we promote a learning and caring environment within the confines of the wards that doctors will begin to progress, irrespective of where they graduated from.

By: kamilsifu

kamilsifu — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:49:29 +0000

PreMedical University:”don’t judge them automatically because we don’t know how genius they are” -yes,the message is clear! =]

Sarah: Yes,they get more exposure than us.It means incompetent local medical graduates are more serious right?=] That’s y assess us individually! =]

Ili: Thanks for ur comments.Yup,let’s improve ourselves together.Maybe it’s the perfect time to prove them that we r not losers.=]

Ken:Thanks for dropping by and leaving ur comment.=]

K2:Agree wf ur statements as well.Hehe,that’s y,labeling the Russian graduates as a whole is totally wrong.even if u study in the best medical university in the world,it never guarantee u with bright future,bcz it’s up to urselves.Hehe.hv a nice day 2.
=]

C2:Yup,we were surprise also.but,it doesnt mean that i hope for spoon feeding fr the doctors drg internship..i just want to clear things up only,i mean the difference in the system has caused such outcome.n it’s true that history taking n PE r very important skills that must b mastered. =]